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Sharing the comments from a reader to texted this to me: It’s amazing that you wrote such a long detailed analysis. It makes me interested in reading a novel as well. I couldn’t agree more “Nick is sweet and thoughtful, but not very charismatic. “ 😅 Jeff Murphy is so hot and charismatic!! I can't trust him,but it would hard to reject him. Without Jeff, the show would been so boring. I'm frustrated with Jeff! I thought "Z seems to be the ultimate CP for Ingrid" too. Z seems to like Ingrid, and he could understand Ingrid's conflicted feeling as an Asian American. M&A revenge made Ingrid and Z even closer to each other. There was a chemistry betweeen Z and Ingrid in the last couple of episodes. I can't wait season2!! And thank you for adding a link for Ingrid’s outfit! I’ve been looking for it!

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On Nick, I did think that he was moving too fast (not that this is any kind of moral failure, to be clear), but I found that he was genuinely accepting of Ingrid and trying to accomodate her as best he could. Ingrid was incredibly uncommunicative, and I don't fault him for having his map not tracking the territory, so to speak (I mean, if he knew she was a liar and a cheater presumably he wouldn't have asked her to marry him, so the person he though he knew lived only in his cranium). I don't think that it would be fair to expect one to be a mind reader or have to act like Sherlock Holmes to understand their partner. When he asks her to move in with him, she agrees; she is the one to invite him to meet her family; when he asks her to marry him, she says yes. All in all, he cannot know what she doesn't tell him or what she lies about.

An perfect example of this would be the "effectively compelling her to wear a mustard yellow gown she didn’t want to wear by leaving her with no other options shortly before the evening event", which I read quite differently. First of all, she knew that she had to attend the gala, so it's not as if she wouldn't have had the option to choose another dress. She was not compelled to do so, she chose to do so. She explains that she has troubles saying no, but that doesn't mean that she couldn't have told him that she didn't like the color or went with a different dress. The scene where she says that was basically the only hint he had that there was something not quite right, and when he wanted to have a talk about it she spurned him and told him she was going home to think, and then didn't pick up his calls. Also, when she raised the point it was in the context of discussing her being unwilling to make a speech that she ended up doing, so it was not at all clear that this had to do with the marriage proposal or the dress or anything else of the sort. Bottom line, Nick cannot know what she doesn't tell him or what she lies about (like being okay with the marriage or the dress). So, in terms of communication failures, I feel that it's the responsibility of the one wanting their partner to know and understand something or say there is a problem to clearly communicate it to them, it's simply not fair to assume they ought to know without telling them, because they are neither mind readers not Sherlock Holmes. I think that verbalizing explicitly the problems and what they would like is central to clear communication and avoiding misunderstandings. In any case, the dress was a pretty minor episode (I didn't agree that she didn't look good in that), the main issue I guess was the fact that she was not honest and upfront with the Murphy situation even before sleeping with him, and about her reservations about the speed the relationship was moving at (on the contrary, besides agreeing to moving in with him -they had been living together for almost half a year, I think-, presenting him to his family, accepting his mother's earrings, and and agreeing to marry him, accepting his family ring, she clearly gave him signals that she was into him and interested in a serious relationship, and it would be crazy to expect him to Chat-GPT style hallucinate what she might or might not be thinking based on what she should have said but didn't say, rather than take her at her word and trusting she was telling him the truth).

All in all, I found it incredible that everyone, from her friends to her mother and sister, to Murphy, knew more about the status of his relationship with Ingrid than Nick himself: she ghosted him rather than talking to him, and ended up stabbing him in the back, when really she just needed to pick up one of his phone calls and tell him it was over, and it would have taken two minutes (better to have an in person meeting, but given the alternative was betraying him, it would have been more honest to take two minutes to break things off, and maybe schedule an in person meeting another day... and, while it would have not been the main point, that way they would have avoided the traumatic and unpleasant situation of him having to see her half naked at the office after sleeping with Jeff behind his back.

On the Jeff situation, I must say that I have a pretty different opinion: he raised red flags all over the place, seemed kind of stupid in that he caused most of his own problems through his relationship with Victoria, and was clearly untrustworthy and disloyal, in addition to a liar and a cheater (though in that respect, Victoria really didn't have the right to complain, given her own behavior -among other things, didn't she cheat with Jeff?-, so I am more worried about the effect on Nick, who clearly didn't deserve to be treated with zero honesty and respect... it doesn't matter that she didn't love him, that doesn't mean that she should feel inclined to treat him with no honesty and respect, and, again it would have taken two minutes to pick up one of his phone calls and clear up the situation, it wouldn't have been a massive time investment. Not that Ingrid has any room to talk, again, given her own actions -in that respect, one could say her and Murphy deserved each other- but It makes it difficult to understand why she didn't think that he would stab her in the back as well.

I must say that I found the fact that she was hung up on him after a one night stand six years prior rather strange and demeaning, as is the "dark bad boy with a troubled past" vibe... Very immature teenager wanting to rebel against her parents. Also, she says she has "history" with the guy... the history being a one night stand more than half a decade ago. Meanwhile, while half a year is not a lot, she had an actual relationship and lived together with Nick for almost six month, presented him to her family, and was engaged with him... all of which seem a more weighty "history" than a one night stand.

Honestly, given that apparently Nick didn't exist in the books, I wonder why they didn't use Zi-Xin as a love interest (in term of conflicts of interest, Victoria was a client, and Murphy was with her, so...). Though, in that case, I would have hoped for a plot line more similar to the book where she doesn't betray his trust, and maybe for them to be endgame.

On the cheating, besides being easily avoidable and pointless, I kind of found it telegraphed and banal, and would have appreciated them having her behave like a normal adult and simply talk to the guy she was engaged with. I was similarly disappointed in Tyler doing that to Anthony, and feared it would be Rachel's turn as well, but thankfully they didn't give her a similar plot line.

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